Both Deny Threats; Republicans Push 'Pentagon Bullied Vatican' Story to Stir Distrust
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Although the Vatican and Pentagon have both publicly refuted claims of a heated, threatening meeting, right-wing commentators continue to circulate the narrative. Repeating a story disavowed by every involved party fuels conspiracy thinking and erodes trust in official statements.
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Although the Vatican and Pentagon have both publicly refuted claims of a heated, threatening meeting, right-wing commentators continue to circulate the narrative. Repeating a story disavowed by every involved party fuels conspiracy thinking and erodes trust in official statements.
The viral post you shared contains a mix of facts and interpretation: • True: meeting happened • True: some journalists describe it as tense • True: Pentagon disputes the characterization • Not proven: that the U.S. threatened the Vatican • Not confirmed: that policy alignment was demanded At the moment, this is developing news with conflicting narratives, not a confirmed scandal.
Apparently the Holy Pope and #OrangeMonkey do not see eye to eye Cardinal’s meeting at Pentagon was ‘unusual,’ Vatican official says https://t.co/yhV01ZSk4u
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The viral post you shared contains a mix of facts and interpretation: • True: meeting happened • True: some journalists describe it as tense • True: Pentagon disputes the characterization • Not proven: that the U.S. threatened the Vatican • Not confirmed: that policy alignment was demanded At the moment, this is developing news with conflicting narratives, not a confirmed scandal.
Media Narrative About Nuncio’s Pentagon Meeting Untrue, Vatican Says. TheVaticanon Friday said the narrative in some media outlets about ameetingat thePentagonbetwe
The viral post you shared contains a mix of facts and interpretation: • True: meeting happened • True: some journalists describe it as tense • True: Pentagon disputes the characterization • Not proven: that the U.S. threatened the Vatican • Not confirmed: that policy alignment was demanded At the moment, this is developing news with conflicting narratives, not a confirmed scandal.
@ChristopherHale I wonder who is lying in this story American Leftist Journos who keep making claims based on imaginary sources or the Holy See which has made public statements to the contrary including those on 𝕏? Vatican denies media spin of envoy meeting at the Pentagon | Crux
I believe the Vatican is just trying to de-escalate the matter. Seeing how the Trump Administration has been behaving this past year, I rather believed what was reported.
A recent meeting between Cardinal Christophe Pierre—the Vatican’s then‑apostolic nuncio to the United States—and senior Pentagon officials has been described by Vatican‑linked sources as highly unusual, even if the Holy See and the Pentagon publicly portray it as a normal #News https://t.co/2rb4iUZt1H
I believe the Vatican is just trying to de-escalate the matter. Seeing how the Trump Administration has been behaving this past year, I rather believed what was reported.
The viral post you shared contains a mix of facts and interpretation: • True: meeting happened • True: some journalists describe it as tense • True: Pentagon disputes the characterization • Not proven: that the U.S. threatened the Vatican • Not confirmed: that policy alignment was demanded At the moment, this is developing news with conflicting narratives, not a confirmed scandal.
So they come out and say that the convos were threat free...but I don't see them correcting the report of all cancelled Pope visits to the US. Which is odd to leave out, unless that part is true
NEW: Washington Post says the Vatican meeting at Pentagon was “unusual.” “Holy See officials and observers, called the Pentagon meeting with Pierre highly unusual, and disclosure of the previously unreported meeting raised eyebrows in Vatican City. “I don’t recall similar
@IAmPoliticsGirl they threatened the pope? Gee, i wonder if that's a lie? The meeting between Pentagon & Vatican officials was a respectful and reasonable discussion.We have nothing but the highest regard and welcome continued dialogue with the Holy See. THE WHITE HOUSE MORE FAKE NEWS! SMH
With this administration especially, I trust the Pope. —-> Pentagon denies threatening Vatican during January meeting with Holy See’s diplomat - The Hill https://t.co/K4TIomf85N
BREAKING—Vatican rebukes @ChristoperHale who made up reports concerning a meeting between the Pentagon and the Holy See. The Cardinal and Church say Hale’s fabrication “does not correspond to the truth in any way.” Hale leaving up his blog now stands as a false witness against
"Pentagon threatens Vatican to downplay Avignon papacy threats." Fixed it 4 u.
"Pentagon threatens Vatican to downplay Avignon papacy threats." Fixed it 4 u.
Vatican backs up Pentagon on tone of Colby meeting. TheVaticanbacked up thePentagonin pushing back against news reports claiming ameetingearlier this year between theHolySee’s then-envoy to the U.S
Not sure why the Vatican should be meeting with any government entity of the USA.
🇻🇦 Wow, this aged poorly Today, the Holy See confirmed that claims regarding a hostile Pentagon-Vatican meeting are "completely untrue" Yet Hale continues to LARP as the spokesperson for the "Vicar of Christ" with his so-called "Letters from the Pope" Embarrassing More below
I am sure the envoy behaved like the toddler in Chief and the Vatican is being polite. The Vatican has the Holy Spirit as guidance and light, the Pentagon has none!!
Vatican officials try to downplay report of meeting that sparked reported feud.... “ThemeetingbetweenPentagonandVaticanofficials was a respectful and reasonable discussion. We h
Pentagon warned Vatican that US has the military power to do whatever it wants, and that the Church had better take Trump's side. During tense meeting, Pentagon reportedly lectured Holy See's 🔺 Pope had made they viewed as hostile to Trump's policies. https://t.co/rI9KqchgI3
Pentagon and Vatican envoys have both denied reports that US officials gave the Holy See's ambassador to the US a "bitter lecture," demanding the Church align with the Trump administration over Pope Leo XIV's criticism of the Iran war. ➡️ https://t.co/Z52itf3Qty https://t.co/goykqDBj0P
The Vatican needs to just stay out of it.
If there is no official statement from the Pope himself, I will not believe whatever is coming from the WarFreak Department.
@NickBis81769369 @AshtonForbes No, Shawn Ryan's statement isn't fully accurate—it's based on an April 6 Free Press report citing anonymous Vatican sources about a January meeting. Pentagon officials and the U.S. ambassador to the Holy See (who spoke directly to Cardinal Pierre) confirm the meeting happened but
CAN SOMEONE TELL ME WHAT'S LEFT? WHAT COULD POSSIBLY BE LEFT TO DESTROY, INSULT, RUIN, THREATEN, ATTACK, STEAL, EMBEZZLE, GRIFT. Pentagon denies threatening Vatican during January meeting with Holy See’s diplomat https://t.co/E8p8g2EoPe
Pentagon warned Vatican that US has the military power to do whatever it wants, and that the Church had better take Trump's side. During tense meeting, Pentagon reportedly lectured Holy See's US Amb. remarks Pope had made they viewed as hostile to Trump https://t.co/oBVbqhF2ON
Pentagon denies threatening Vatican during January meeting with Holy See’s diplomat https://t.co/wOgwEwQI0S
Pentagon denies threatening Vatican during January meeting with Holy See’s diplomat https://t.co/OlNNLHygav
Pentagon denies threatening Vatican during January meeting with Holy See’s diplomat https://t.co/TQiJT5vlw9
Pentagon denies threatening Vatican during January meeting with Holy See’s diplomat https://t.co/l9YcslAzig
Pentagon denies threatening Vatican during January meeting with Holy See’s diplomat https://t.co/ylzwC23fNu
Not sure why the Vatican should be meeting with any government entity of the USA.
Pentagon denies threatening Vatican during January meeting with Holy See’s diplomat https://t.co/BQBrAd5S98
This is False!!! U.S. Ambassador to the Holy See Brian Burch reveals that Cardinal Christophe Pierre confirmed the Pentagon did not threaten the Vatican:
So they come out and say that the convos were threat free...but I don't see them correcting the report of all cancelled Pope visits to the US. Which is odd to leave out, unless that part is true
🌍 Pentagon denies threatening Vatican during January meeting with Holy See’s diplomat 🔹 The Pentagon officially denied any threats made to the Vatican during a late January meeting with the Holy See’s diplomat, following Pope Leo XIV's warnings. 🔹 During the meeting, Pentagon
@IAmPoliticsGirl Yeah that’s not true: U.S. Ambassador to the Holy See Brian Burch reveals that Cardinal Christophe Pierre confirmed the Pentagon did not threaten the Vatican.
This is the United States and it does not answer to the Vatican.
The Vatican needs to just stay out of it.
THIS IS A LIE!!!! U.S. Ambassador to the Holy See Brian Burch reveals that Cardinal Christophe Pierre confirmed the Pentagon did not threaten the Vatican:
The viral post you shared contains a mix of facts and interpretation: • True: meeting happened • True: some journalists describe it as tense • True: Pentagon disputes the characterization • Not proven: that the U.S. threatened the Vatican • Not confirmed: that policy alignment was demanded At the moment, this is developing news with conflicting narratives, not a confirmed scandal.
@AngelaBelcamino Apparently your government believes that the Vatican carries an enormous amount of weight and influence otherwise your government would not have summoned the Ambassador of the Holy See to the Pentagon to ream him out over a speech that the Pope gave.
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If there is no official statement from the Pope himself, I will not believe whatever is coming from the WarFreak Department.
I think you need to recant this!!! This is Fake!!! U.S. Ambassador to the Holy See Brian Burch reveals that Cardinal Christophe Pierre confirmed the Pentagon did not threaten the Vatican:
I am sure the envoy behaved like the toddler in Chief and the Vatican is being polite. The Vatican has the Holy Spirit as guidance and light, the Pentagon has none!!
Alleged Pentagon Warning to Vatican Deepens Rift Over U.S. Foreign Policy. A reported confrontation between senior Pentagon officials and the Vatican's ambassador to Washington has intensified tensions between the Trump administration and the Holy See, following Pope
I believe the Vatican is just trying to de-escalate the matter. Seeing how the Trump Administration has been behaving this past year, I rather believed what was reported.
Apparently the Holy Pope and #OrangeMonkey do not see eye to eye Cardinal’s meeting at Pentagon was ‘unusual,’ Vatican official says https://t.co/yhV01ZSk4u
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